Comments on: Sizing Up the GOP Contenders for 2008 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/ refusing to drink the kool-aid for anyone Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:00:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Graham http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-3960 Graham Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:34:31 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/12/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/#comment-3960 One interesting thing (well, I found it interesting anyway) was the London "Times" a few months ago commenting on how the likely alterations in Electoral College vote allocations for 2012, 2016 and 2020 would strongly favour the Republicans, generally increasing the number of Electors in more Republican states and reducing those in more Democrat ones. Simply population shift. The interesting consequences were first that the only Democrat who could realistically win in 2012 would be a sitting President seeking a second term. The other is that the shrewd Republican candidate playing the long game would not seek the Presidency for 2008, but aim to be number 2. That the important person to look at is who is their Vice-Presidential candidate as she (or he) would have a good chance of being Vice-President 2009-2017 and then President 2017-2025, if the Electoral College becomes weighted in favour of the Republicans. One interesting thing (well, I found it interesting anyway) was the London “Times” a few months ago commenting on how the likely alterations in Electoral College vote allocations for 2012, 2016 and 2020 would strongly favour the Republicans, generally increasing the number of Electors in more Republican states and reducing those in more Democrat ones. Simply population shift.

The interesting consequences were first that the only Democrat who could realistically win in 2012 would be a sitting President seeking a second term.

The other is that the shrewd Republican candidate playing the long game would not seek the Presidency for 2008, but aim to be number 2. That the important person to look at is who is their Vice-Presidential candidate as she (or he) would have a good chance of being Vice-President 2009-2017 and then President 2017-2025, if the Electoral College becomes weighted in favour of the Republicans.

]]> By: Vigilius http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-3887 Vigilius Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:57:50 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/12/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/#comment-3887 No, let's not talk about Mormonism anymore. You've been generous with your time and energy responding to something that was a bit off the path.... Thank you. No, let’s not talk about Mormonism anymore. You’ve been generous with your time and energy responding to something that was a bit off the path…. Thank you.

]]> By: Byron http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-3877 Byron Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:38:28 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/12/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/#comment-3877 I have no problem with miracles per se. I have a massive problem with Mormonism from top to bottom; I do not accept the Mormon "miracles" as miracles, in significant part because I do not accept the Book of Mormon nor the testimony of Joseph Smith or its prophets. Wow...did we get away from subject on this thread...but hey, I'll continue, if you care to. I have no problem with miracles per se. I have a massive problem with Mormonism from top to bottom; I do not accept the Mormon “miracles” as miracles, in significant part because I do not accept the Book of Mormon nor the testimony of Joseph Smith or its prophets.

Wow…did we get away from subject on this thread…but hey, I’ll continue, if you care to.

]]> By: Vigilius http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-3876 Vigilius Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:24:08 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/12/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/#comment-3876 So.... it's just Mormon miracles you have a problem with? Or the miracles that undergird the Mormon beliefs? So…. it’s just Mormon miracles you have a problem with? Or the miracles that undergird the Mormon beliefs?

]]> By: Byron http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/comment-page-1/#comment-3875 Byron Mon, 13 Mar 2006 20:03:06 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2006/03/12/sizing-up-the-gop-contenders-for-2008/#comment-3875 No...none of those things are difficult to believe in if you accept the possibility of the supernatural, and the concomitant possibility of divine miracles. But I remember (and it's been awhile, forgive me) studying Mormonism a number of years back, and its basic tenets are far, far removed from Christianity. Perhaps "fairy tale" isn't the best way to put it, but the distance between Mormon teaching and evangelical faith is vast, huge, and impassable. Wish I remembered more specifics, I honestly do... No…none of those things are difficult to believe in if you accept the possibility of the supernatural, and the concomitant possibility of divine miracles. But I remember (and it’s been awhile, forgive me) studying Mormonism a number of years back, and its basic tenets are far, far removed from Christianity. Perhaps “fairy tale” isn’t the best way to put it, but the distance between Mormon teaching and evangelical faith is vast, huge, and impassable. Wish I remembered more specifics, I honestly do…

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