Comments on: The Laodicea Chronicles II: Hyping Jesus http://www.byron-harvey.com/2005/04/the-laodicea-chronicles-ii-hyping-jesus/ refusing to drink the kool-aid for anyone Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:00:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Bob Robinson http://www.byron-harvey.com/2005/04/the-laodicea-chronicles-ii-hyping-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1147 Bob Robinson Wed, 13 Apr 2005 14:36:28 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2005/04/12/the-laodicea-chronicles-ii-hyping-jesus/#comment-1147 Hefe's first paragraph made me laugh out loud. Again, you point out how capitalism has corrupted the church. We live in a free market, and the market demand for pastor's conferences is high, so sell! sell! sell! The competition is getting fierce, so sell! sell! sell! Hefe’s first paragraph made me laugh out loud.

Again, you point out how capitalism has corrupted the church. We live in a free market, and the market demand for pastor’s conferences is high, so sell! sell! sell! The competition is getting fierce, so sell! sell! sell!

]]> By: Hefe http://www.byron-harvey.com/2005/04/the-laodicea-chronicles-ii-hyping-jesus/comment-page-1/#comment-1145 Hefe Tue, 12 Apr 2005 22:18:22 +0000 http://www.byron-harvey.com/2005/04/12/the-laodicea-chronicles-ii-hyping-jesus/#comment-1145 After your last blog under this heading, I found the sentence, "Stowell’s message alone was worth the price of the event" an interesting choice of words. Does the quality of the speaker make a charge for hearing it reasonable? But I wholeheartedly agree with you on the hyping issue. There is only one thing that can change us like that, the transforming power of the presence of Jesus Christ made reality by the work of the Holy Spirit. I don't believe either of them is currently represented by a marketing executive. Can that transformation be achieved THROUGH a conference? Sure. But not BECAUSE of a conference, only because of Jesus. And it's up to Him where and when he moves, not because a flyer said so. Of course I am very cynical about conferences these days. I too get mailings for conferences at least 3-4 times a week. I could attend a youth/worship/pastor conference/retreat/seminar just about every day of my life, and then never actually accomplish anything to advance the Kingdom of God. I think it is becoming less about equiping and refreshing, and more about finding ways to have more conferences. I see oversaturation , introspection, and PREPARING for ministry at the expanse of doing ministry. Almost as if the culture of conference world is becoming a giant self-help group. Sorry getting way off topic, but it has bothered me for a while. After your last blog under this heading, I found the sentence, “Stowell’s message alone was worth the price of the event” an interesting choice of words. Does the quality of the speaker make a charge for hearing it reasonable?

But I wholeheartedly agree with you on the hyping issue. There is only one thing that can change us like that, the transforming power of the presence of Jesus Christ made reality by the work of the Holy Spirit. I don’t believe either of them is currently represented by a marketing executive. Can that transformation be achieved THROUGH a conference? Sure. But not BECAUSE of a conference, only because of Jesus. And it’s up to Him where and when he moves, not because a flyer said so.

Of course I am very cynical about conferences these days. I too get mailings for conferences at least 3-4 times a week. I could attend a youth/worship/pastor conference/retreat/seminar just about every day of my life, and then never actually accomplish anything to advance the Kingdom of God. I think it is becoming less about equiping and refreshing, and more about finding ways to have more conferences. I see oversaturation , introspection, and PREPARING for ministry at the expanse of doing ministry. Almost as if the culture of conference world is becoming a giant self-help group.

Sorry getting way off topic, but it has bothered me for a while.

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